> Ps what are the specs for the 316 tds, and the Z3? > HP and torque?? at what RPMs 316tds: M41, 90bhp:4400rpm, 140lb/ft:2000rpm Z3 1.9: M44, 140bhp:6000rpm, 133lb/ft:4300rpm - -- Who needs a life when you've got Unix? :-) Email: [email protected], John G.Burns B.Eng, Aberdeen, Bonny Scotland Web : http://www.unixnerd.demon.co.uk - The Ultimate BMW Homepage! ------------------------------